FE12 and Stuff
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mark_asphodel Today was not the greatest day. Somebody got injured at work, plus one of my direct subordinates is having his bi-monthly meltdown and I had to talk him down from the metaphorical tree again. This always makes me pretty angry.
I need to stop looking for information about FE12, because what I'm finding just disturbs me.
This piece of fanart pretty much sums up my feelings about Abel and Est in light of FE12. Yes, that's Nino and the twins, but the treatment of the subject matter-- let's sprinkle pretty purple flowers on top of despair!-- applies to this situation as well.
In related wtf-ery, this thread over at SerenesForum tackles a topic that seems to bother a number of fans-- why the four captive priestesses in FE3/12 can't be recruited by alternate options (Michalis for Maria, Matthis for Lena, and so on). Aside from the obvious answer "Coz Matthis sucks at everything," one of the posters there let off with this little gem:
"Elice doesn't think very highly of Marth. To her, he's an idealist who can't do anything without the help of others...somebody to be protected, not somebody to rely on."
Allegedly Elice drops this bombshell in her Prologue conversation with MyUnit. And I'm scratching my head at this point, because if Marth is so useless, why does everybody and their kid sister cede power to him, again? Seriously, IS... this looks more and more like an intentional dystopia.
I need to stop looking for information about FE12, because what I'm finding just disturbs me.
This piece of fanart pretty much sums up my feelings about Abel and Est in light of FE12. Yes, that's Nino and the twins, but the treatment of the subject matter-- let's sprinkle pretty purple flowers on top of despair!-- applies to this situation as well.
In related wtf-ery, this thread over at SerenesForum tackles a topic that seems to bother a number of fans-- why the four captive priestesses in FE3/12 can't be recruited by alternate options (Michalis for Maria, Matthis for Lena, and so on). Aside from the obvious answer "Coz Matthis sucks at everything," one of the posters there let off with this little gem:
"Elice doesn't think very highly of Marth. To her, he's an idealist who can't do anything without the help of others...somebody to be protected, not somebody to rely on."
Allegedly Elice drops this bombshell in her Prologue conversation with MyUnit. And I'm scratching my head at this point, because if Marth is so useless, why does everybody and their kid sister cede power to him, again? Seriously, IS... this looks more and more like an intentional dystopia.
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Date: 2010-08-24 01:47 am (UTC)Given Marth's characterization in localized Shadow Dragon, I don't know how they're going to handle this. :P
No kidding. This is making him out of be worse than he was in FE3
a feat previously only accomplished by the anime, and uh... yeah, those were two incompatible characterizations."Most people, realizing the truth, must establish a compromise between their ideals and reality"
Uh, yeah. This was going on in FE11. We saw that taking place. Unless NoA pulled that whole characterization out of thin air.
But Marth is incapable of doing that because he truly wants to save every last person.
All right, we're back to the old Idiot Messiah trope. Goddammit, I despise that archetype.
because in FE3 HIS WHOLE ENTIRE MOTIVATION/REDEMPTIVE ARC REVOLVED AROUND MARIA.
Is the fact that he can't recruit her after all a clue that the whole thing is a pisstake?
I think Elice is a fascinating character personally but man, there is so much about her canon depiction that is so. Messed. Up.
Word. I'm just... disturbed. I'm gonna go play something nice and friendly and non-headfucky like Flower Sun and Rain now.
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Date: 2010-08-24 03:50 am (UTC)Ugh, I'm kind of beginning to suspect so. At least in FE12-land. It would make sense with what FE12's given us for Michalis characterization in his new dialogue.
Though I half suspect still that it's just sheer laziness on the part of IS -- or at least, I'd LIKE to stand by my continuing theory that Michalis recruitment is just an Easter Egg/joke and canonically he still dies. But given how much they changed elsewhere in terms of recruitment, the omission seems particularly glaring.