Death's Head Canon, FE4 Gen 2 (V. 1.0)
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mark_asphodelSo. Being "indisposed" for the better part of two weeks has led to some bizarre trains of thought.
Not least, I have an idea of the most complete version of FE4 "what happened next" headcanon that I've yet developed. Unsurprisingly, it's kind of wtf and not entirely based on outcomes or pairings I much like.
Note: In keeping with Fire Emblem and the idea that Gen 2 was followed by a Gen 3, please add 10 years or more to everyone's age if you want real-world approximations for how old characters live to be. :)
Patty: Inherited Jungby. Had an on-again, off-again thing with her Knight Commander, said commander being cousin Lester. This produced 3-4 kidlets even though Patty never bothered getting married to him. It was basically the farcical sequel to Aideen and Midayle's tragedy. Long-lived like her mother and aunt despite a weight problem caused by her love of food, Patty "retired" from being a duchess in her forties and spent the rest of her time traveling around, enjoying food and gossip and sightseeing.
Lester: Did not enjoy said sightseeing, as Patty's antics wore him into the ground well before she handed things over to their eldest son.
Faval: Pounded Verdane into submission with the Ichival. Had a happy reign of many decades, though like his sister he became quite stout, which likely contributed to his death at age fifty.
Sety: Consolidated rule in Silesia and brought in a golden age of peace, prosperity, and scholarship. In the Archanea/Valencia/Jugdral universe it appears that magical powers fade with age the way physical strength does, and when Sety felt this coming on he abdicated and went off in search of the roots of magical knowledge. Sety never married but managed to spring a major-blooded heir on the kingdom anyway, suggesting that maybe he took a page out of Trabant's playbook re: Arion.
Arthur: Put up with Grandbell as long as he could and escaped to his "native" Silesia to help Sety found some universities and stuff. Went off with Sety to magic-dragon-land. You do the math.
Tinny: Made a surprisingly adept ruler of Freege but, like mother Tiltyu, was prone to depression, which fed into a general state of poor health that did her in before she reached forty.
Fee: Had a lovely time of things as Duchess of Chalphy before she succumbed to the same disease that killed Fury-- though, without all the nasty extenuating factors of Occupied Silesia, she outlasted Fury's lifespan by a couple of decades.
Scathach: Helped out Shanan in Isaac, then went off to teach at the reformed military academy in Barhara. Scrabbles caused a bit of a scandal by marrying one of Celice and Lana's daughters-- specifically, the one that looked most like Lana. Hmm.
Shanan: Politically successful but personally plagued with tragedies, Shanan died on the battlefield like his father and grandfather, but under more trivial circumstances not suited to such a great hero.
Lakche: Her marriage to Shanan got off to a rocky start when their first son died in infancy. High-strung and nervy Lakche died of a fever in her late twenties.
Delmud: Served as right-hand-man to Aless and as a popular and capable prince of his native Nodion. Del married the daughter of one of Eltoshan's long-dead Cross Knights and was absolutely happy with his lot in life. His eventual end was unremarkable and the details seem to be lost.
Aless: Suffered a leg wound in a jousting match and it never healed. Eventually lost the use of that leg entirely but continued into his early fifties as a pretty cranky ruler.
Arion and Altenna: Eventually married but lived mostly out of the public eye; Arion wasn't willing to do more than the bare minimum to prop up Leaf's regime because he never shook off the feeling that his minor-blooded in-law had fucked him (and his heirs) over.
Laylea: Married Aless and outlived him by a considerable margin. Eventually went to a convent believing the End Times were at hand.
Sharlow: Considered a force for moral good inside Thracia, the upstanding high priest never did marry and didn't make it out of his thirties.
Julia: Eventually married, to pass on the Narga bloodline, yet strangely none of her children had the mark of a major blood carrier...
Leaf and Nanna: Ruled New Thracia together in relative bliss for about two decades. Leaf's Thracia was an odd place that embraced a degree of meritocracy, some remarkably liberal social views (do whatever the hell you like in the bedroom) and didn't outlaw the theoretical study of dark magic (Salem set a good example), but in geopolitical terms Leaf was the unquestioned punitive hardliner of Celice's allies. After Nanna died of illness in the early 800s, Leaf responded by becoming reactionary as fuck, which cooled his relationship with Celice considerably. A "cold war" of a few years' duration broke into an open war between the cousins, and while the war machine that Leaf inherited from Trabant decimated Celice's forces, Leaf himself wasn't any match for the Tyrfing.
Celice and Lana: The final encounter with Leaf weighed heavily on him, and while Celice was occupied with Leaf's forces, he faced a rear attack from the illegitimate son he'd had with Julia back during the holy war. The Narga bloodline did indeed trump everything. Poor Lana was still at Barhara during this time, but her victorious stepson did treat her well because she'd always been kind to Julia.
Not least, I have an idea of the most complete version of FE4 "what happened next" headcanon that I've yet developed. Unsurprisingly, it's kind of wtf and not entirely based on outcomes or pairings I much like.
Note: In keeping with Fire Emblem and the idea that Gen 2 was followed by a Gen 3, please add 10 years or more to everyone's age if you want real-world approximations for how old characters live to be. :)
Patty: Inherited Jungby. Had an on-again, off-again thing with her Knight Commander, said commander being cousin Lester. This produced 3-4 kidlets even though Patty never bothered getting married to him. It was basically the farcical sequel to Aideen and Midayle's tragedy. Long-lived like her mother and aunt despite a weight problem caused by her love of food, Patty "retired" from being a duchess in her forties and spent the rest of her time traveling around, enjoying food and gossip and sightseeing.
Lester: Did not enjoy said sightseeing, as Patty's antics wore him into the ground well before she handed things over to their eldest son.
Faval: Pounded Verdane into submission with the Ichival. Had a happy reign of many decades, though like his sister he became quite stout, which likely contributed to his death at age fifty.
Sety: Consolidated rule in Silesia and brought in a golden age of peace, prosperity, and scholarship. In the Archanea/Valencia/Jugdral universe it appears that magical powers fade with age the way physical strength does, and when Sety felt this coming on he abdicated and went off in search of the roots of magical knowledge. Sety never married but managed to spring a major-blooded heir on the kingdom anyway, suggesting that maybe he took a page out of Trabant's playbook re: Arion.
Arthur: Put up with Grandbell as long as he could and escaped to his "native" Silesia to help Sety found some universities and stuff. Went off with Sety to magic-dragon-land. You do the math.
Tinny: Made a surprisingly adept ruler of Freege but, like mother Tiltyu, was prone to depression, which fed into a general state of poor health that did her in before she reached forty.
Fee: Had a lovely time of things as Duchess of Chalphy before she succumbed to the same disease that killed Fury-- though, without all the nasty extenuating factors of Occupied Silesia, she outlasted Fury's lifespan by a couple of decades.
Scathach: Helped out Shanan in Isaac, then went off to teach at the reformed military academy in Barhara. Scrabbles caused a bit of a scandal by marrying one of Celice and Lana's daughters-- specifically, the one that looked most like Lana. Hmm.
Shanan: Politically successful but personally plagued with tragedies, Shanan died on the battlefield like his father and grandfather, but under more trivial circumstances not suited to such a great hero.
Lakche: Her marriage to Shanan got off to a rocky start when their first son died in infancy. High-strung and nervy Lakche died of a fever in her late twenties.
Delmud: Served as right-hand-man to Aless and as a popular and capable prince of his native Nodion. Del married the daughter of one of Eltoshan's long-dead Cross Knights and was absolutely happy with his lot in life. His eventual end was unremarkable and the details seem to be lost.
Aless: Suffered a leg wound in a jousting match and it never healed. Eventually lost the use of that leg entirely but continued into his early fifties as a pretty cranky ruler.
Arion and Altenna: Eventually married but lived mostly out of the public eye; Arion wasn't willing to do more than the bare minimum to prop up Leaf's regime because he never shook off the feeling that his minor-blooded in-law had fucked him (and his heirs) over.
Laylea: Married Aless and outlived him by a considerable margin. Eventually went to a convent believing the End Times were at hand.
Sharlow: Considered a force for moral good inside Thracia, the upstanding high priest never did marry and didn't make it out of his thirties.
Julia: Eventually married, to pass on the Narga bloodline, yet strangely none of her children had the mark of a major blood carrier...
Leaf and Nanna: Ruled New Thracia together in relative bliss for about two decades. Leaf's Thracia was an odd place that embraced a degree of meritocracy, some remarkably liberal social views (do whatever the hell you like in the bedroom) and didn't outlaw the theoretical study of dark magic (Salem set a good example), but in geopolitical terms Leaf was the unquestioned punitive hardliner of Celice's allies. After Nanna died of illness in the early 800s, Leaf responded by becoming reactionary as fuck, which cooled his relationship with Celice considerably. A "cold war" of a few years' duration broke into an open war between the cousins, and while the war machine that Leaf inherited from Trabant decimated Celice's forces, Leaf himself wasn't any match for the Tyrfing.
Celice and Lana: The final encounter with Leaf weighed heavily on him, and while Celice was occupied with Leaf's forces, he faced a rear attack from the illegitimate son he'd had with Julia back during the holy war. The Narga bloodline did indeed trump everything. Poor Lana was still at Barhara during this time, but her victorious stepson did treat her well because she'd always been kind to Julia.
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Date: 2012-11-29 10:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-11-30 11:39 pm (UTC)I've always wondered if they were trivial anime flaws like "poor sleeping posture" or the actual heroic sort.
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Date: 2012-11-29 03:28 pm (UTC)And the Celice/Julia kidlet was always meant to rule Grandbell, of course.
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Date: 2012-11-30 11:40 pm (UTC)And the Celice/Julia kidlet was always meant to rule Grandbell, of course.
I have never been able to erase the idea of said kidlet from my brain since learning of the plot-mandated hookup between Julia and Celice that supposedly existed in Chapter Eight of the beta version of the game.
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Date: 2012-11-29 05:28 pm (UTC)In my headcanon the Tiltyu's kids end up abandoning Freege entirely to Ethnia's kids or some other random noble, too much disdain/bad memories on both ends. I also imagine that there'd be some malcontents in Sety's court who portray his FE5/4 excursions as a reckless ruler abandoning his people when they needed him most, with Fury dead and Levin gone, to help out some other countries with their problems. Then again another headcanon states that's its almost tradation for Silesian heirs to fuck off and adventure in some other country once they get to that age.
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Date: 2012-11-30 11:49 pm (UTC)I also imagine that there'd be some malcontents in Sety's court who portray his FE5/4 excursions as a reckless ruler abandoning his people when they needed him most
That's pretty plausible, yeah.
Then again another headcanon states that's its almost tradation for Silesian heirs to fuck off and adventure in some other country once they get to that age.
Hah. I have to wonder what kind of man Levin's father was. He seemed like a drip in the manga.
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Date: 2012-11-30 03:47 am (UTC)I really like the idea of Celice/Julia's kid coming and kicking ass. It works well within the story set in Gen 1/2, and shows that Jugdral will never escape the Narga bloodline and it's OP factor.
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Date: 2012-11-30 11:47 pm (UTC)The way I figured it, yeah that did happen.
[The part about Aless being Lachy's son with Elto also makes a sickening amount of sense, given she dropped off her baby with Random Other Guy in order to seek out ickle Aless.]
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Date: 2012-12-02 04:43 pm (UTC)I would read the hell out of a fic about Leaf and Celice 20+ years after the end of FE4 along the lines you described. And on a less serious note, I rather like the idea that Silesia has a longstanding line of major-blood-inheritors who end up abandoning their rule, one way or another. :-P
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Date: 2012-12-02 06:27 pm (UTC)I would read the hell out of a fic about Leaf and Celice 20+ years after the end of FE4 along the lines you described.
Yeah... I'd like to write one, but something that apocalyptic is kind of hard to get started. But I would like to.
And on a less serious note, I rather like the idea that Silesia has a longstanding line of major-blood-inheritors who end up abandoning their rule, one way or another. :-P
Heheh. One way or another, we get green-haired wind mage babbies (OK, one babby) in Archanea!
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Date: 2014-02-05 08:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-02-06 04:32 am (UTC)Julia would be living a quiet life in her husband's house (I've decided she'd marry Johalva, because I forgot about him when I wrote this) when Seliph went off to war. I'm sure her son would want her to be acknowledged as Empress Mother, yes. I don't think she'd like that very much, though.
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Date: 2014-05-29 05:25 am (UTC)Inheriting Verdane might be the biggest problem to tackle, just cause it seems to have been left to rot more than once thus is likely being run by bandit-warlords or something. A Holy Weapon wiping its slate is the easiest fix. I wonder if any sort of softer, diplomatic approach could ever work?
Sety/Arthur - magic studies, YAY!
Sharlow dying young. :'(
I think you've mentioned the possibility of Leif/Nana's kid having pink hair... But whenever you've mentioned the Seliph/Julia baby I totally picture them having pink hair. Since there's pink on both sides of the family then: Ethlyn/Baldur and Linoan/Heim.
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Date: 2014-05-31 12:45 am (UTC)I have some headcanon specific to Finn!Patty and Alec!Corple. Since Corple stays in Thracia as Hannibal's son and heir and Patty goes home with him because Faval gets Jungby, they're considered kind of a post-war supercouple-- the son of Southern Thracia's greatest general and the daughter of Northern Thracia's legendary knight. Their wedding is a big to-do second only to Leif and Nanna's wedding and the public adores them. They inherit Hannibal's mansion, which Patty fills with "souvenirs." :)
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Date: 2014-06-30 05:47 am (UTC)Gah I'm terrible but I have to ask this: I noticed you're really shipping Altenna/Corple now (which I'm totally on board with, also the Sharlow variation) so do you have any headcanon how their lives as a couple might go?
...and do you have any new top ships involving Patty, cause of the above?
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Date: 2014-07-02 01:24 am (UTC)I don't have especially strong feelings about Shanan/Patty or Seliph/Patty-- I like them both but they're not *my* ships. Lester/Patty isn't my thing. The idea of Leif/Patty is one of the few things I remember liking about the Light Inheritors manga, but I'm not especially attached to it as something that actually happens. I did find a Japanese fan-site whose owner supported Leif/Finn!Patty and Finn!Faval/Nanna, which was amusing.
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Date: 2014-08-07 02:22 pm (UTC)I pictured the Seliph/Julia kiddo with pale bluish-white hair but pink is a much more appealing idea.
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Date: 2014-10-26 07:41 pm (UTC)