mark_asphodel: Sage King Leaf (Default)
[personal profile] mark_asphodel
I'm so glad I waited to write this one.

I was having second thoughts, you see.  Spending a great deal of time comparing the merits of "favorites" and the reasons why they rank can lead to second-guessing.  I was starting to wonder if poor Leaf really belonged "below the cut," down at #12, and if I shouldn't rearrange a few other things while I was at it.  But then, something happened yesterday that affirmed that yeah, I really do adore this character.

#4: Marth

Remade, retconned, and redesigned.  Trotted out to represent the franchise in two installments of Smash Bros, not to mention a failed anime and a screwball manga.  And now, apparently, being subjected to Very Weird Things in FE13... which would mark his fifth appearance in an FE game if he really is the kid in the butterfly mask.

Marth kind of escaped being a character, or even a franchise mascot, some time ago.  He's been re-imagined and re-purposed enough times that he's pretty much the real-world equivalent of a mythical founder in an FE game.  We've got the basics of what he looked like and what he did, but the details change every time.  The very fact that FE13's trailer is taunting prospective players with glimpses of a slim young swordfighter sporting a shield-shaped brooch and a tiara says something powerful about his status in the eyes of his creators, IMO.  Marth expies are few and far between, and this is one stunt they've never pulled before.  Sorry, Stateside fanbase-- Intelligent Systems puts a great deal of stock into the idea that you, the player, really like Marth.  You want him in your life.  You want to be his special friend.  You will sit up and take notice over this.

And a lot of you don't-- that comes across loud and clear in the fora and elsewhere.  

But too bad.  I do.  Well, I don't want to be his special friend, and there are rather a lot of things about Marth in his various incarnations that I don't like, but IS did the one thing they could possibly have done that converted my feelings regarding FE13 from "meh"  into an adrenaline rush of "I NEED THIS GAME!"

Best Lord?  I won't claim that. Most likable Lord?  No.  My favorite representative of the Lord class in FE history?  Oh, yes.  Oh yes.

There's a reason there's no "Marth" tag on this journal.  In the end, it's all really about him.

Date: 2012-02-24 12:35 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
Something I must wonder is the ratio of profit IS sees from its Japan fanbase compared to its overseas one....

Is it that catering to Japan is more profitable, or that our fanbase is somehow more incoherent?

Date: 2012-02-24 02:05 am (UTC)
samuraiter: (Default)
From: [personal profile] samuraiter
I suspect that rampant overseas piracy makes the Japanese fan base the one that actually turns a profit.

Date: 2012-02-24 02:56 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
If Mark is to be believed, the number of units sold are still pretty solid.

Date: 2012-02-24 02:55 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
Development costs aside... there's licensing/localization factors, I imagine. IS is sharing their US cut with the translators.

Date: 2012-02-24 03:17 am (UTC)
raphiael: (Marth is a gloombox)
From: [personal profile] raphiael
Even if Ike is the more "American" hero, I still think if you were to ask someone who'd just played Smash Brothers or whatever about a Fire Emblem character, they're more likely to say Marth. I come into contact with a lot of "vaguely interested in Fire Emblem" people via tumblr, and mostly when I get questions, it's about, well, Marth.

FE fandom as we know it isn't really a good indicator of Western buyers as a whole, I don't think. And, counterintuitive as it is, the success of a lot of JRPGs tell me the common wisdom of "Americans don't want bishies" isn't necessarily true.

Date: 2012-02-24 04:00 am (UTC)
amielleon: Shion and Nezumi from No. 6 (No. 6: Grit)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
Dude, give me all the bishies.

Date: 2012-02-24 04:14 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
Have you seen FE11 Marth? Not bishie.

Date: 2012-02-24 04:30 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
Yeah, but I'm a chick, and FE11 Marth does not make my heart happy.

Date: 2012-02-24 04:35 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
FWIW I think they learned their lesson and made Marth appropriately pretty in FE12.

FE12 Marth is nice to look at!

Date: 2012-02-24 04:56 am (UTC)
amielleon: The three heroes of Tellius. (Default)
From: [personal profile] amielleon
I dunno what's up with you and the adult look man, but statistically speaking, people rate people of about 18 years old as the most physically attractive.

Date: 2012-02-24 07:05 am (UTC)
raphiael: (Bard Decoy)
From: [personal profile] raphiael
. . .man that's a nice portrait he has there.
Man.

Date: 2012-02-24 08:14 pm (UTC)
samuraiter: (Default)
From: [personal profile] samuraiter
Our fan base is a Nintendo Fan Base ™. Which means it's even more hidebound and incoherent than a normal video game fan base. (Example: Because the Game Cube has so few RPGs on it, the players cling to the RPGs it does have like flies to poop, regardless of their quality.)

Date: 2012-02-24 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] monoforce
I agree with you that Marth kind of turned into the spirit of Fire Emblem!! Not many characters can do that, so props to Marth. It's a shame the Archanea games are not as widespread as they should be. :(

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