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Reading about that new "Sleeping Beauty" film, which after all revisits a fairy tale I find endlessly disturbing, makes me want to write some kind of genuinely inverted take on the story.  Something with an active female molesting acting upon a passive/comatose/dead male character.  Just out of sheer perversity, you know?

Suggestions welcome.  It's a burr under the saddle to me at present.

Date: 2011-12-05 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviatrix8.livejournal.com
I'm all for revamped fairy tales, but after hearing about the Red Riding Hood movie that came out a while back, I have no interest in seeing what this Sleeping Beauty movie is about. :P (Although I still kind of want to see that Once Upon a Time series on TV...)

This does remind me that I need to finish my own silly take on fairy tales/fantasy stories, The Prince and the Unicorn. (Let's just say the unicorn isn't the pure and noble creature usually portrayed in tales. ;)

Date: 2011-12-05 11:30 pm (UTC)
raphiael: (Fakir wuuuuut)
From: [personal profile] raphiael
For some reason, my first thought was Nyna.

I wonder if this should worry me.

Date: 2011-12-05 11:50 pm (UTC)
raphiael: (Ciel wtf)
From: [personal profile] raphiael
Also wow the premise there is creepy :|

Date: 2011-12-06 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com
Isn't it, though?

Date: 2011-12-06 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xirysa.livejournal.com
If I said that I would willingly pay to read/see this, would that worry you?

Date: 2011-12-06 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com
Yeah, she's a really good candidate for the female character in a reverse Sleeping Beauty. Really, really good.

Date: 2011-12-05 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviatrix8.livejournal.com
I made the mistake of checking that review you linked. Gah, that movie sounds so deameaning to women. :P

Also, your Sleeping Beauty reversal story idea reminds me of a movie I read about back in the 90's... I think it was about the shy daughter of a funeral director, who liked to feel up caress the bodies of the male corpses (although this was supposed to be portrayed as fascination with the male body, rather than outright necrophilia). No idea what the title was, though...

Date: 2011-12-06 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com
Wow. That film sounds pretty interesting.

And yes, if "Sleeping Beauty" is trying to be some kind of satire taking aim at the objectification of women, it has misfired horrifically.
Edited Date: 2011-12-06 04:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-12-06 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviatrix8.livejournal.com
I do wish I could remember the name of the movie, but since I never watched it... (It wasn't all about necrophilia either; it was also about the girl finally coming out of her shell and finding love with a real person, rather than with the lifeless corpses.)

I wish I could update my posts...

Date: 2011-12-06 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aviatrix8.livejournal.com
This might be the movie I was describing above: Kissed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissed). The description isn't exactly as I remembered it, but it's pretty close. (And I hit at least one unwanted link trying to find it, ew.)

Re: I wish I could update my posts...

Date: 2011-12-07 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com
Thank you for digging that up for me! :D

Date: 2011-12-05 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samuraiter.livejournal.com
This looks like a job for Innes, IMO.

Date: 2011-12-06 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com
I like that idea. I quite like that idea.

With L'Arachel as the female lead, perhaps?

Date: 2011-12-06 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myaru.livejournal.com
Yes. Please.

Date: 2011-12-06 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xirysa.livejournal.com
I profess to having a bit of an obsession with fairy tales as a whole (and take incredible delight in seeing them completely inverted), so I'm probably incredibly biased. But that would be something to see. In a rather creepy way.

And on the topic of creepy, why do I see this scenario working out almost disconcertingly well with Lyon and Ephraim? (After her last piece with the two of them, I'm blaming this entirely on [livejournal.com profile] raphiael.

Date: 2011-12-06 03:03 am (UTC)
raphiael: (Default)
From: [personal profile] raphiael
Why are these things always my fault? :|

Date: 2011-12-06 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xirysa.livejournal.com
I think, at this point, that most everything I do is somehow related to you,

Date: 2011-12-06 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com
why do I see this scenario working out almost disconcertingly well with Lyon and Ephraim?

Yeah, but that would go against the conceit of having the female be the actor/aggressor in this particular re-telling. And Raphi kind of already gave me all the Ephraim squickage I can handle in one calendar year.

Date: 2011-12-06 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myaru.livejournal.com
This is disgusting. I had no idea it existed until clicking on that link, and kind of wish I could rewind my life and go back to that blissfully ignorant state of existence.

I really loved the Disney version of the fairy tale growing up. Then I heard all the other versions. :/

Any speculation I have on a reversal would probably err toward original fic instead, and I like that Innes idea...

Date: 2011-12-07 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark-asphodel.livejournal.com
Then I heard all the other versions. :/

The thing that almost makes sense about the movie is the very criticism that the main character just kind of sleepwalks through life being acted upon, because that's exactly what the original Sleeping Beauty character did. Or didn't do.

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