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[mark_asphodel]

 Things I contemplated during my two-hundred-and-fifty (250!) mile roundtrip commute in the ice today:

1) If Archanea/Valencia/Jugdral take place on the same planet as Tellius (which I personally don't believe), then the destruction of the other continents can't happen at anytime remotely close to the gameplay era.  IIRC, the math works out so that FE4/5 have to happen approximately 1100 years prior to FE1/2/3.  But we know from the ending of FE2 that the dynasty Alm and Cellica establish on Valencia endures for at least 1,000 years.  If any sort of ocean apocalypse happened, Valencia would be the first thing wiped out-- Archanea is (we think) a far larger archipelago with mountains in excess of 1500 meters high (per FE3).  If Valencia survives, then Archanea and Jugdral wouldn't be affected either.  So either the Tellius games are in the far, FAR future of Planet Fire Emblem (or VERY distant past), or they don't take place on the same planet.

Or the other continents were never swamped to begin with.

2) So were Abel and Est actually married or not?  Relationship chart, you confuse me.  Abel, if you loved that girl so much that you were willing to Betray the Cause for her, yet couldn't be bothered to make an honest woman out of her... then what the hell is your problem?

3) Looking back over my former fandoms reminded me of all the stupidity from those days that I forget about when I'm being all nostalgic about the Good Old Days of recs pages and essential archives.  Things like people squabbling over who got to be miko of this, or miko of that.  People having to maintain lists of who was "officially" the Keeper of The Hairpick in Duo's Braid or the Keeper of Heero's Gym Shoes.  People who overdosed on Fushigu Yuugi tacking "no da" onto the end of very damned sentence.

4) Eine is such a crappy assassin.  How hard is it, really, to kill Marth using magic?  She can't have been trying very much, or at all, because a ten-year-old armed with a Thunder tome should've been able to pull that one off.

5) I had something else on par with the geekiness of #1, but the nap I took on getting home pushed it out of my brain.  Will edit if I recall it.  ETA: I remember now.  It was something to do with Alteans being losers.  Not the playable ones, the whole country.

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[shimizu-hitomi.livejournal.com]

So were Abel and Est actually married or not?

Started up my rom to check and yeah, apparently the relationship chart just says lovers*. Which is most certainly different from the Hardin/Nyna connection, which explicitly says "married". I'd have to go through the script to check further, but to my recollection I guess there wasn't any specific reference to their marriage, was there? Or was it implied in one of the endings? Hmmm.



Oh, I see. Abel's ending says he was to be married soon... so engaged, maybe? I suppose FE2 must have thrown a wrench in their plans, although trying to make sense of all this as well as Palla's feelings and Est's apparent lack of them in FE2 makes my head hurt.

[myaru.livejournal.com]

Ahhh, I remember those old fandom days! I'm so glad they're over and buried in the Wayback Machine.

Re: Tellius and its ocean apocalypse, the implication is that all the places people thought were submerged were not. FE10 introduces characters from Hatari, which was supposed to have been destroyed, and likewise the people in Hatari thought that Tellius had been destroyed until Rafiel (heron) fell into their collective lap. My guess is, it's just that nobody on Tellius has been able to sail, fly, or walk far enough to see for themselves. There are huge deserts, and I don't even know about their naval technology. Politics didn't really encourage exploration, either.

Technically it's possible. But likely? I don't think so either. The mythology and the history of their racial evolution suggests a definite no, as we don't see anything like the Zunanma on Archanea. Also, dragons of the sort we see in the older games don't exist on Tellius.

I can go on about this forever, but I thought the flood was more like a series of destructive storms. Just my theory, though.

[hooves.livejournal.com]

Or the other continents were never swamped to begin with.

I actually like this idea, and I will probably run with this in my headcanon (because dear God it's already forming, though I have no idea why). Maybe A continent was swamped-- think a continent like Japan or China, not as big as like, Russia, but big enough that it'd be very noticeable should it happen.

Perhaps whatever was flooded and ruined was close enough that it was one of or THE ONLY other known continent. Or perhaps what was sunken/flooded was a series of small islands/etc. If that is all people THINK exists... Well, they would assume "all continents" had been flooded.

Also, for example, they might not decide to explore of their own free will. Not much fun and honestly, it'd be considered a waste of time. On the ocean, even a bird laguz would die too far from land/if any trouble befell the ship, say, they ran out of food/etc.

/babbles incoherently

[penandpaper71.livejournal.com]

The Abel/Est thing is weird. Abel is not coming out of this game well at all, but there is nothing new there. It appears that, if I like the character, then they've been diminished to the point that I have trouble dealing with it, with the possible exception of Caeda and Palla, who might have escaped with mildly less damage then the rest (At least, I don't recall anything that has truly offended me in their characterization the way I have with Marth, Catria, Cain, Minerva, etc).

And, because I've always been fond of Cain's and Abel's friendship, I was disappointed that there is no connecting line between Abel and Cain at all. I mean, My Unit and Katarina get "trust" (They've known each other... five minutes before she goes evil?) and Cain and Abel... don't appear to know each other (Well, outside of the support data, but that all makes my head hurt by this point). I mean, it's irrational, but taking in the account the lack of conversations has caused me to wonder if I read entirely too much into their relationship to start off with. I'm not pleased, but that's not new.

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

...I could've sworn it explicitly said Abel and Est were actually married? *checks Monshou book 1 endings* ...no, it mentions Abel's upcoming wedding and that's it. But in my opinion it was safe to assume they WERE married sometime before book 2, I dunno why FE12 would say otherwise.