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mark_asphodel) wrote2011-06-12 10:31 am
mark_asphodel) wrote2011-06-12 10:31 am
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Jugdral Wibbles
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I didn't volunteer to write for Jugdral on this one, even though I cop to being one of the people who complains that there's not enough Jugdral 'fic out there. I seem to have a mental block on writing anything for it, outside of making Leaf "the squishy one" in various mash-ups. And I tell myself that it's because the game scripts are too involved to grasp without actually playing through them, that playing them will take up too much time, that if I really want to write Jugdral with the depth that![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
kittykatloren and sarajayechan bring to it then I really ought to read the mangas... all of them. And I tell myself that the people who love Jugdral really love it and I need to do it justice if I ever to take a stab at it.
Basically, I tell myself that the canon is too intimidating and I'm not ready for it.
I think I'm lying to myself. It's because I don't like most of the characters. I don't want to write them.
The situations that these characters are in, particularly with the generational themes playing out, made the characters initially seem awesome to me. You don't have to manufacture darkness, or invent parental losses or sibling separation or any other plot points o'drama. It's there. The parent-child relationships have a built-in resonance that you have to kind of work at for most second-gen Elibe characters, IMO. And the happy endings and the reunions and such are there, too, especially if you decide to run with some of the more cracked-out things that the designers came up with, like resurrecting Tiltyu after keeping her on ice for a while. Great material.
I still don't like most of these characters. I want to kick a lot of them, including Tiltyu. And Sylvia. And others, like Claude and Eltoshan, really... don't interest me on anything beyond an abstract level. My single favorite first-gen character in FE4 is probably Levin, and I like him best as Tactician!Levin... who isn't really Levin. But he's cool. I think the Thracia/Lenster gang and the Silesians are the only characters I actually like.
Basically, if these characters weren't in such complex and "dramatic" situations, I think I'd like them even less than I do. Like some of the FE7 characters I don't care for, it's the existence of a canonical destiny for them that gives them the apparent weight they have. Out of context, they just don't do it for me.
Argue away, 'cause I want to like them and write for them. I'm just... so not feeling the love for these people.
I didn't volunteer to write for Jugdral on this one, even though I cop to being one of the people who complains that there's not enough Jugdral 'fic out there. I seem to have a mental block on writing anything for it, outside of making Leaf "the squishy one" in various mash-ups. And I tell myself that it's because the game scripts are too involved to grasp without actually playing through them, that playing them will take up too much time, that if I really want to write Jugdral with the depth that
kittykatloren and sarajayechan bring to it then I really ought to read the mangas... all of them. And I tell myself that the people who love Jugdral really love it and I need to do it justice if I ever to take a stab at it.Basically, I tell myself that the canon is too intimidating and I'm not ready for it.
I think I'm lying to myself. It's because I don't like most of the characters. I don't want to write them.
The situations that these characters are in, particularly with the generational themes playing out, made the characters initially seem awesome to me. You don't have to manufacture darkness, or invent parental losses or sibling separation or any other plot points o'drama. It's there. The parent-child relationships have a built-in resonance that you have to kind of work at for most second-gen Elibe characters, IMO. And the happy endings and the reunions and such are there, too, especially if you decide to run with some of the more cracked-out things that the designers came up with, like resurrecting Tiltyu after keeping her on ice for a while. Great material.
I still don't like most of these characters. I want to kick a lot of them, including Tiltyu. And Sylvia. And others, like Claude and Eltoshan, really... don't interest me on anything beyond an abstract level. My single favorite first-gen character in FE4 is probably Levin, and I like him best as Tactician!Levin... who isn't really Levin. But he's cool. I think the Thracia/Lenster gang and the Silesians are the only characters I actually like.
Basically, if these characters weren't in such complex and "dramatic" situations, I think I'd like them even less than I do. Like some of the FE7 characters I don't care for, it's the existence of a canonical destiny for them that gives them the apparent weight they have. Out of context, they just don't do it for me.
Argue away, 'cause I want to like them and write for them. I'm just... so not feeling the love for these people.
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Personally I've ended up liking all the FE4 playable characters (even Beowulf, who I wanted to slap for the longest time), both in and out of the context of FE4's canon.
You mentioned Eltoshan above...what are your thoughts on him remaining loyal to King Shagall even knowing the man's a prick? TVTropes actually listed him as lawful stupid for that one, so apparently a lot of people think he's an idiot.
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so apparently a lot of people think he's an idiot.
Does TVTropes really imply any sort of consensus? Isn't that like Wikipedia where anyone can add anything?
Anyway, I don't think about it, really. It's (VERY) like Camus being loyal to the king who's destroying his own kingdom-- it generates conflict and keeps the plot moving. If I liked Elto half as much as I like Camus (and I don't much like Camus), I might have a deeper opinion on it, but my main thoughts on Elto involve whether or not he and Lachesis were doin' it. The answer being, Yes.
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Personally I find TVTropes extremely dubious, especially concerning smaller fandoms (like ours). I have seen more
stupidquestionable statements than I can count, a particularly interesting example being Shinon and Gatrie being listed under Heterosexual Life Partners, when they went separate ways and worked for two different employers at war after leaving the Mercenaries, and Gatrie can do nothing to persuade Shinon to change sides.Yeah. Life partners. Totally.
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Cain and Abel got cited, too, IIRC. Because having Abel shack up with some chick and then RUN AWAY forever, while Cain sticks with Marth his entire life, is also an example of being "Life Partners."
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I LOL'd.
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I headdesked.
/creeping on old entries
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True. I just checked the page and now he's listed under "Honor Before Reason" which to me seems more like an unbiased view of him. I guess SOME fans might think he's stupid, with or without mentioning it on TVTropes.
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