Fire Emblem: You're Doing It Wrong

[mark_asphodel]

I suppose DW isn't the best place to air my grievances with Tumblr-fen, but I'll just post two things here:

1) Discussion of sexuality, gender roles, and what is and is not "normal" in Fire Emblem that uses the GBA Fire Emblem as a starting point and Radiant Dawn as an end point is, shall we say, missing a large part of the picture.  As in, missing six to eight installments of the franchise. 

2) Referring to complaints over the new OA and DLC art as "slut-shaming" when part of the problem is that the male characters are not being portrayed in the same sexualized manner as the female characters, which appears to be a glaring and problematic double standard, honestly misses the point entirely.  

Then again, people who throw around "slut-shaming," like people who throw around "sheeple," are usually not worth the time to debate.

Comments

[samuraiter]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.

[mark_asphodel]

I'm not even sure what the terms means in context half the time.

[amielleon]

Iawtp

Also, nothing remotely "slutty" about Eirika but I find her the most ridiculous.

[mark_asphodel]

The contrast between the original Ephraim'n'Eirika and their new forms is striking. And telling.

[xenosynth]

O_o Slut shaming? I've not encountered this term but... wat.

Then again, I know people who tend to use similar arguments for things. When disagree with them and you are a male, it's sexism, if you disagree with them and are female, internalized sexism or whatever they call it.

Slightly off topic but am I still the only one scared of gangly Ike? I just.... saw him yesterday and I think slender-Ike is creepy.

[amielleon]

Dude, he looks like a beetle.

To be fair there are a lot of small ways of thinking that really are sexist/internalized sexist that aren't sexist in a "you are a horrible backwards person who beats women" kind of way, but I think it's pretty unproductive to single people out and say they are being so, unless you know them personally and you can have a conversation about it where both parties are listening.

[xenosynth]

Yeah, I understand what you mean. There are just sometimes where people use the guise of social justice in order to undermine the opinion of people they don't want to agree with, and when that happens it's very frustrating and hard to argue with someone who can simply dismiss your ideas because they've already determined you are biased or otherwise not worth listening to.

[mark_asphodel]

Gangly Ike is just kind of gross overall. But if they had to wreck a Lord, better him than Marth or Leaf or Ephraim. :D

[amielleon]

:(

[mark_asphodel]

Blog owner's bias. Sorry!

PS: Celice looks like a twerp and deserves it.

[amielleon]

okay that makes me feel better

[xenosynth]

Ike is probably my least favorite lord of all the games I've played. At least most lord I play as I get some attachment to (Even if I am still nervous about putting them in the open >.>;)

[raphiael]

Whenever this crowd realizes there were games before FE7, it's always in the context of "but you're not complaining about FE4!!"
1. I'm pretty sure they know fuckall about FE4, and
2. It's about 15 years late to be calling it problematic-- and do we really want to dredge up crap that was stupid even then?

[mark_asphodel]

I'm pretty sure they know fuckall about FE4, yeah. And there are, in fact, things to complain about in FE4... and the fact that FE5 went right back to the "norm" for the franchise is also very relevant IMO.